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# gyptian December 30th, 2007 9:31 pm

Musharrafs fate is actually unimportant. His successor , Kiyani, has already been groomed to take over from Musharraf. The ties between the U.S. and the Pakistani Military span 60 years. The only true solution to Pakistan is Democracy and the establishment of strong democratic institutions, but this actually runs counter to American interests as dealing with a democracy is messy and we may not be able to manipulate them the way we do the Military !

The fundamentalists in Pakistan, contrary to popular belief here in the West, do not command more than 15-20% of support. The ‘chaos’ theory is misguided and all the problems you see right now is due to American involvement in Pakistani affairs and NOT the other way around. The chaos would actually disappear if we keep our grubby hands off their affairs and genuinely enable democracy to flourish. But thats wishful thinking and the madness will go on uninterrupted.

# ZeroPointField December 31st, 2007 1:17 am

I would like to have what gyptian is having.

That sums up the world situation pretty well.

gyptian is right on the points he makes, to a point... and that's where ZeroPointField describes things perfectly. The ISI is an evil entity independent of the U.S. government (albeit with a good working relationship), and not having popular support doesn't mean evil people wan't take over and/or hold onto power (witness Bush).

Mostly I don't know enough about the specifics in Pakistan to say anything except that while U.S. elite's interference is generally bad, motivated by greed and powerlust, there's plenty of people capable of generating their own bad.

Solidarity with those seeking justice, liberty, and peace is the only way, and it's hard.